Aug 29, 2017

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Letter No.225 to disciples: Is four handed God or Goddess in Hinduism similar with the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara? And is Yidam practice (Chenrezig) contrary to the emptiness in Buddhism?

Letter No.225 to disciples: Is four handed God or Goddess in Hinduism similar with the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara? And is Yidam practice (Chenrezig) contrary to the emptiness in Buddhism?

Letter No.225 to disciples: Is four handed God or Goddess in Hinduism similar with the four-armedBodhisattva Avalokiteshvara? And is Yidam practice (Chenrezig) contrary to the emptiness in Buddhism?

Dear disciples,

After reading lesson 14: Approach Prajna Paramita (acorrect view of emptiness) by Yidam visualization, Tantra Nirvadeva (C H Lakshminarayan ) has commented as follows:

Respected Guruji,I bow my head at the lotus feet of Guruji.

I am Tantra Nirvadeva.

Hindus , according to their Hindu philosophy worship 4-handed God or or Godess .is this Bodhisattva  Avaflokitheshwara with 4-handed is similar to God whom by contemplation and meditation (Yidam contemplation) we get pure Wisdom? (as there is no faith in God in Buddhism).

Buddhism is Emptiness (shunyavada). Everything is changing every moment including our body which is undergoing change towards old age and death! So no need to feel egoism because what is there to be called as our own as this world itself is an illusion!. This is the real meaning of Emptiness (shunyavada). By contemplation and meditation on  Avalokitheshwara picture or statue we get the pure Wisdom of this Emptiness of Buddhism.

Request Guruji’s clarification of 4-handed Bodhisattva Avalokitheshwara’s existence similar to Hindu’s 4-handed God or Goddesses.

Om Mani Padme Hum.

Long live our Guruji for upholding Dharma.

Dr.C H Lakshminarayan.

Dear Tantra Nirvadeva,

I’m happy with your inquiries! This proves that you seriously study the Buddha’s teachings and you have your own spiritual concerns. Now I give the clear explanations for your question. I apologize for the delay because I have been busy with the Dharma activities for a month and some illnesses have disturbed me.

I assert that the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara is completely different from the Hindu God or Goddess with four hands, although they have four hands. Likewise, every human being has two legs, but they have different points, from which the noble ones or the disrespectful ones are identified. Therefore, from this standpoint, we think about the difference between the four-arm Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva and the Hinduism’s four handed God or Goddess in the spiritual aspects.

First of all, let’s look at the general form of the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara with 7 ornamental elements, nine virtues that symbolizes his skillful means and transcendental wisdom whereas the God in Hinduism cannot obtain such wisdom (please read Lesson 15 : 3 Ultimate means, 7 Ornaments and 9 Characteristics relating to Yidam visualization.). So, the holy body is used for the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara while the god’s body is used for Four-handed God or Goddess in Hinduism.

In Buddhism, cultivators will attain wisdom by the contemplation of emptiness.

After all, in respect of dharma practice, meditating on the Yidam is the means to approach the wisdom of the Prajñā, or the wisdom of emptiness. In heterodox, Hinduism in particular, practitioners cannot attain Prajna Paramita because while practicing they think of their self until they entered the Great Self of the God; Finally, God is just the being in samsara, so it cannot be called the holy body.

In Buddhism, cultivators will attain wisdom by the contemplation of emptiness. Depending on their own sects, the practitioners follow the path to liberation with their own methods, just like Zen Buddhism, they follow the path from formless to emptiness; Or practicing from the form to emptiness is the transcendental characteristic of Vajrayana (called Tantrayana). Thus, the meditators visualize the yidam who represents emptiness, so contemplating on the yidam becomes the means to approach emptiness. It should be emphasized that when visualizing his holy body, the practitioners do not simply look at his appearance, they should contemplate on his miraculous qualities (such as the four arms signify the four immeasurables: immeasurable loving kindness, immeasurable compassion, immeasurable joy, and immeasurable equanimity.); Or think of spiritual means as follows:

Yidam Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara

(1) Pearls on the head represent the state of dharmakaya (primordial wisdom).

(2) Pearls on ear represent absolute purity

(3) Pearls on the necklace symbolize mindfulness

(4) Pearls in the arms represent the achievement.

(5) Pearls in the wrist symbolize diligence.

(6) Crystal mala (rosary) in his other right hand symbolizes renunciation.

(7) A lotus flower in his other left hand represents immeasurable joy.

C/ The four arms and hands signify the four immeasurables: immeasurable loving kindness, immeasurable compassion, immeasurable joy, and immeasurable equanimity. There are some other meanings in accordance with dharma: (1) lotus represents purity; (2) crystal beads represent diligence; (3) Mani pearl represents skillful means.

D/His vajrasana symbolizes the equality between samsara and nirvana, the state of nondualism.

Lastly, cultivators, when meditating themselves as a Yidam, they initiate the spiritual pride or divine pride of that their physical bodies are sanctified. Now, as long as the practitioners stay in such state of being a Yidam, then the practitioners are the Yidam. This is the ultimate supreme practice recognized as the quintessence of the Vajrayana, the core of the Tantric Buddhism, which helps  practitioners accumulate merit one asankhya faster than the Paramitayana Mahayana Path in the stages and paths of the bodhisattvas in a way from the path of accumulation to the path of no-more-learning. This is affirmed in the sutra of “the identification of the power from devotion” has written: “contemplating the holy body of Yidam Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara once, a practitioner gets the merit as much as making offering continuously to 1,000 Arahats for 100 lives”

Dear Tantra Nirvadeva!

I conclude that the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara is completely different from the God or Goddess with four hands in Hinduism.

Finally, I conclude that the four-armed Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara is completely different from the God or Goddess with four hands in Hinduism in terms of both form and content, or in other words, both Sambhogakaya and Dharmakaya. Reading what I have analyzed, you should understand that Tantric practitioners do not attach on either the appearance or ego while doing Yidam practice, they use them as the means to approach the emptiness. It is both simple and effective.

May all sentient beings achieve the happiness Buddha’s nature.

Phuoc Thanh village on 28/08/2017

Thinley Nguyen Thanh

Translated by Mat Dieu Hang


Original Vietnamese version:

Thư gửi các trò 225: THẦN BỐN TAY CỦA ẤN ĐỘ GIÁO GIỐNG NHƯ THÁNH TƯỚNG QUÁN ÂM TỨ THỦ KHÔNG? VÀ TU PHÁP QUÁN TƯỞNG THÁNH TƯỚNG BỔN TÔN CÓ PHẢI LÀ TRÁI VỚI ĐẶC TRƯNG CỦA TÁNH KHÔNG TRONG ĐẠO PHẬT KHÔNG?

  1. Dr. C H Lakshmi narayan. says:

    Respected Guruji, I bow my head at the lotus feet of Guruji.

    I am Tantra Nirvadeva.

    Guruji, your light of wisdom in the form of clarification has driven away the darkness  present in my mind in the form of doubts ! I think Guruji should not apologies at anytime though it reflects your greatness ! On the contrary we , disciples  should receive and place on our head what Guru throws from his feet towards us . I should apologize for giving you when you are busy otherwise &. also indisposed in health. That must be our Guru-disciple devotion.  Namaskar (Thanks) Guruji. Thanks to my kalyanamithra Mat Deu Hang too.

    Om Mani Padme Hum.

    Long live our Guruji for upholding Dharma.

    Dr . C H Lakshminarayan.

    • Mật Diệu Hằng says:
      Kính bạch Thầy!
      Con xin phép dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Nirvadeva (C H Lakshminarayan) sang tiếng Việt như sau:
      “Kính bạch Thầy tâm linh tôn quý!
      Con xin cúi đầu đảnh lễ dưới chân sen của Thầy.
      Con là Tantra Nirvadeva.
      Thưa Thầy! Ánh sáng tuệ quang của Thầy với sự luận giảng rõ ràng đã đánh tan mọi bóng đêm tăm tối của sự nhầm lẫn giữa Quán Âm tứ thủ và vị Thần Phạm thiên trong tâm con.
      Thầy không cần xin lỗi dù bất kỳ lúc nào mặc dù đó là phẩm chất cao đẹp và sự vĩ đại của Thầy. Mà ngược lại, chúng con, học trò của Thầy nên nhận bất kỳ điều gì Thầy ban cho và tôn kính đặt lên đầu kể cả những gì Thầy ném ra từ chân của Thầy.
      Con xin sám hối với Thầy vì đã quấy nhiễu Thầy khi Thầy đang bận pháp sự và Thầy đang có một ít bệnh duyên quấy nhiễu thân căn tứ đại của Thầy bị tịnh hóa. Thầy vẫn tận tâm giải đáp khúc mắc tâm linh của con.
      Con chân thành cảm tạ ơn Thầy!
      Con cảm ơn đạo hữu Mật Diệu Hằng đã dịch bài.
      Om Mani Padme Hum.
      Con cầu nguyện Thầy trụ thế lâu dài vì sự nghiệp hoằng dương chánh pháp.
      Con – C H Lakshminarayan.”
  2. Salvatore Antonio Fois says:
    Venerebol GURU;

    My name is Tantra Siramitra.

    I read the article, and offcours as the Venerebol GURU as well explained, it’s not possible to compare lord Avalokiteshvara with the Induism god’s! But it is very good to clear the point.

    OM MANI PADME HUM……

    Faithfully.

    • Kính bạch Thầy!

      Con xin phép dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Siramitra (Salvatore Antonio Fois) sang tiếng Việt như sau:

      “Kính bạch Thầy tâm linh tôn quý!

      Con là Tantra Siramitra.

      Con đã đọc bài viết này rồi ạ. Và trong bài viết Thầy tôn quý đã luận giảng rõ ràng rằng Quán Âm tứ thủ hoàn toàn khác với vị Thần Phạm thiên trong đạo Hindu. Không nên so sánh ngài Quán Âm tứ thủ với vị Thần Phạm thiên trong đạo Hindu vì có sự chênh lệch quá lớn. Bài viết của Thầy đã luận giải minh bạch, cụ thể giúp cho chúng con hiểu rõ sự khác biệt này.

      Om Mani Padme Hum.

      Con cảm tạ ơn Thầy!”

  3. Dear Holy Guru,

    Thank a lot for your enlighten article.

    Thanks for your commiserative and Bodhicitta, we, your disciples understand clearly that Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara is completely different from the four-hands Hindu goddess. 

    May Guru and your consort good health and long live for the sake of all sentient beings.

    Thanks Mat Dieu Hang for your translation to help Guru’s lights of wisdom spread all over the world. May Mat Dieu Hang good health.

    May all sentient beings achieve the happiness Buddha’s nature.

    Om Mani Padme Hum!

  4. Waldik D L Souza says:
    Dear Master ,

    Thank you .

    Very Nice and clear explanation.

    May you be in good health .

    Namo Amitabha Buddha.

     

     

  5. Jennifer says:
    Dear holy guru,

    I have only seen symbols of the for handed good/ goddess and I like the person who sent the question, confused the two. I did not know they were two separate beings or the meanings behind them. Thank you so much for this informative article. Thank you for teaching me. May you live peacefully and well for your sake and all sentient beings sake

  6. Tantra Upatissa says:
    Dear Guru
    I have read this article. It is a very interesting one. Thank you so much.
    May the Guru live long for the sake of all beings.
    May all beings achieve the happiness of Buddha’s nature.
    Om Mani Padme Hum.
    • Kính bạch Thầy!

      Con xin phép dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Upatissa sang tiếng Việt như sau:

      “Kính bạch Thầy!

      Con đã đọc bài viết này rồi ạ. Con cảm tạ ơn Thầy đã cho con đọc được bài viết ý nghĩa.

      Con cầu nguyện Thầy trụ thế lâu dài vì sự lợi lạc của tất cả chúng sanh.

      Cầu nguyện tất cả chúng sanh thành tựu hạnh phúc của Phật tánh.

      Om Mani Padme Hum.”

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