Nov 25, 2018

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DOUBLE-TOUNGE SPEECH IS SHARPER THAN SWORD (Nói lời hai lưỡi nhọn hơn cả mũi giáo)


Dear disciples!

I’ve read an extract from the article of Le Sy Minh Tung recently and found the word “anh huong” (influence) being repeated four times (check out this link: I want to take this occasion to explain to you what is “influence” (or “being influenced”). In his doctrine, the Buddha has never been influenced or bounded by the factors of Nationality, Times and Ethnicity because its liberation knowledge is based on the Ultimate Understanding of the Four Noble Truths (the truth of suffering, the truth of the origin of suffering, the truth of the path that frees us from suffering, and the truth of the end of suffering). Any knowledge that goes against these truths is considered as wrong path and non-Buddhist. Therefore, Le Sy Minh Tung’s viewpoint is still subjective because“a half loaf of bread is half loaf of bread, but a half truth is a whole lie”.

Buddhism owns up to six miraculous powers so why it should be influenced by supernatural powers from Bön?

Tibetan Buddhism has been popularized and transmitted throughout the world since the 8thcentury, thus it is officially recognized as Buddhist Dharma and offers a variety of skillful means (upaya) that help attain knowledge of liberation. Among the knowledge of liberation is the Right View on worship and respect, i.e worship those who deserve to be worshipped (Buddha, Bodhisattva and Aryias, do not worship Deva, Atula, Demon and Object); respect those who deserve to be respected (Guru, Buddha, aryias, sangha, elder venerables). The commentary of Le Sy Minh Tung therefore poses many weak points and his conclusion is completely wrong.

Another viewpoint I totally disagree is the matter of magical power. Like other religious sects, all Buddhist saints have possessed six magical powers (divine vision (Dibba-cakkhu), divine hearing (Dibbasota), the power of discernment of the mind of others (Cetopariya), the power of transformation (Iddhividha), the power of knowing previous existences (Pubbenivasa), and the power related to the extinction of all cankers which facilitates the purity of mind and grants awakening (Asavakkhaya). Check out this link: Among these six powers, the 6thone cannot be attained by any non-Buddhist practitioner for they are lack of the wisdom of Emptiness. This is the reason why what Le Sy Minh Tung wrote is illogical and untrue: “Although Buddhism had developed strongly in Tibet, native people preferred magical powers under long-time influence of an ancient local religion called Bönon their culture. This influence implicitly dominated them in accepting different Buddhist doctrines. Despite the fact that the King of Tibet had endeavored to develop Buddhism in Tibet, it remained gloomy because native people did not have explicit attitude toward Buddhist doctrines but gave care to magics.”

Why was that? “Influence” means someone or something having certain characteristics or development that lays effect on someone or something that haven’t had such certain characteristics or development. Buddhism has already possessed up to six magical powers so it shall never been influenced by Bön religion (in terms of miraculous power). For instance, in the past, didn’t the Buddha conquer the Jatadhari Kasyapa by his magical powers who then became Mahakasyapa?Mahamaudgalyayana, a monk of great psychic powers, is said to have used his powers to bring the sentient beings back to the Buddhist path. Moreover, the 46th Bodhicitta vow says: “If you possess extra-physical powers but not use them at a time of need”. All these instances aim to clarify that none of magical powers from heretical sects can influence the essence or doctrine of Buddhism as Le Sy Minh Tung asserted in his article. Again, his commentary is subjective and biased and considered as an evil and erroneous view that Wanko Yeshe Norbu has pointed out.


Dear disciples!

Above is my clarification on the erroneous view of Le Sy Minh Tung. Now come to the word of the so-called “borrowing”used by Dr. Thich Nhat Tu when he talked about Mahayana Buddhism, in which he mentioned about Vajrayana in particular. 

Lục đạo luân hồi

Buddhism holds within it a treasure of wisdom that is superior to 96 heretical sects in its time. Why should it “borrow” doctrine from other sects?

Firstly, in an interview with An Vien Television on November 26-27, 2014, Dr. Thich Nhat Tu said: “Buddhism borrows the doctrine of hell or scenes of hell from Brahmanism to educate (!) bad persons, heading them to good deeds. This is because they are the ones who “did not shed tears though seeing the coffin.” ” This is wrong as most of religions have concepts of helland Buddhism is not an exception. If it already has, why should Buddhism “borrow” that concept from other? Almost all Buddhist scriptures mention about three (3) worlds and six (6) ways of conditioned existence (hell, hungry ghosts, animals, humans, Asura and Devas). His statement is therefore nonsensical. The wisdom in Buddhism is superior to that of 96 heretical sects in the Buddha’s time and that’s the reason why the Buddha could be free from the cycle of existence. Then is it necessary for Buddhism to “borrow” theory from others?


Secondly,Dr. Thich Nhat Tu said in a sermon on May 27, 2014 at his monastery in Ho Chi Minh City:“Among three Vedas in Buddha’s time, one contains thousands of mantras. A few hundred years after the Buddha entered Nirvana, Indian monks had borrowed mantras from Brahmanism to use in Buddhism…”. This is clearly a serious defamation of Tantrayana which falls in one of three foolishness that are written in the Book of the Later Han (后汉书):

1/ Know what should not be known

2/ Do not know what should be know

3/ Do not know thoroughly what have been known


Every religion has their own secret words but “mantra” exists in Buddhism only (in the sense of miraculous, wonderful, praiseworthy), so how could Buddhism possibly “borrow” from Brahmanism? Absolutely wrong!

As you know, all religious cultures use their secret words which is a composition of syllables that creates their own powerful wave which is able to lay impact on the chanter’s body, speech and mind as well as others’. Therefore, Taoism as well as the world of preta have their own secret words while only sacred words in Buddhism should be called “mantra” (in the sense of miraculous, wonderful, praiseworthy). Hence, Thich Nhat Tu’s assertion on Buddhism’s borrowing Brhamanism’s secret words is definitely wrong and proves to be biased in terms of academic knowledge. Ironically, many Buddhists are now chanting Great Compassion mantra every night which is compiled by Thich Nhat Tu. Then a question comes to my mind: “ If Thich Nhat Tu asserted that Buddhist mantras originate from Brhamanism, why did a doctoral degree holder like him still compile that mantra for the Buddhist?” In the past, he also talked about the existence of demonic possession, exorcism, schizophrenia, or invited a telepath named Phan Thi Bich Hang to his pagoda to present about preta realm. But he paradoxically denied all these phenomena in an interview with An Vien Television on May 26-27, 2014. The above two examples indicate that Ven. Thich Nhat Tu himself is denying his assertions or viewpoints in the past without any appropriate reasons or explanations.


Dear disciples!

This is subjected to the faulty action numbered 6 among 18 root Bodhisattva vows: “Defaming the holy Dharma”; the fautly action numbered 6 among 14 root Tantric vows: “Criticizing the holy Dharma”.

I highly appreciate the counter-argument of Mat Quoc Sanh for Le Sy Minh Tung’s article and would add some of my commentary. I’m definitely sure that the core of Buddhism has never been impacted by but on the contrary, it has laid impacts on other religions since it has Wisdom of Emptiness, a pure secret essence (not subtle element) thatdoesn’t depend on mind concentration as other religions do. What’s more, this essence is not influenced by space, climate or physical environment as the gross elements are. The wisdom in Buddhism is far superior to that of 96 heretical sects in the Buddha’s time. Buddhists are equipped with many skillful means (six paramitas), Four elements of popularity (Catvari-samgraha-vastuni), Five studies or Pancavidya (including healing vidya, craftsmanship vidya, sound vidya, causality or Buddhist logic vidya, and inner realization vidya). So is it necessary for the Buddhists to “borrow” from other sects while they have yet used up resources in Buddhism?


Buddhist dharmas can vary as each patriarch has their own way of teaching, but they all share the same taste of liberation which are of great benefits to the practitioners. This diversity aims to adapt to various cultures, times and ethnicities.

In short, Le Sy Minh Tung or Thich Nhat Tu alone cannot represent ideas of other practitioners in judging or subjectively asserting the characteristics of Buddhist schools. This is subjected to the faulty action numbered 6 among 18 root Bodhisattva vows: “Defaming the holy Dharma”; the fautly action numbered 6 among 14 root Tantric vows: “Criticizing the holy Dharma”. They also fall in the fault of relying on their own mind when they have not attained enlightenment that the Buddha pointed out inthe Fourty-two Chapter Sutra.

I will end this writing with a quote from of the 14thteaching of Master Gampopa regarding 14 grievous failures of a practitioner: “If someone think that an experience resulting from a technique is supreme, he then mistakes copper for gold”.

Phuoc Thanh Village, July 1, 2016

Thinley-Nguyen Thanh

Translated by Mat Hue Phap

Vietnamese version: Đạo sư Thinley Nguyên Thành khẳng định: NÓI LỜI HAI LƯỠI NHỌN HƠN CẢ MŨI GIÁO

  1. tantraupatissa says:

    Dear Guru thanks for sharing this article.

    I understand many people have wrong views about Buddhist mantra’s. Though they follow Buddhism or practise meditation of other types still they doubt in what they have learnt and publish wrong information which is not a good karma.

    Hope all these beings may learn deeply and get right understanding on Buddhist mantra’s and teachings.

    May Guru and his consort live long and protected and get enlightened.

    May all beings and Guru’s disciples be free from suffering and get enlightened.

    Om Mani Padme Hum..

    • Kính bạch Thầy!

      Con xin phép được dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Upatissa sang tiếng Việt như sau:

      Kính bạch Thầy! 

      Con cảm tạ ơn Thầy đã cho con được đọc bài viết này. 

      Con hiểu rằng có nhiều người tà kiến về thần chú trong đạo Phật. Mặc dù họ là con Phật,  thực hành pháp,  thực hành thiền định nhưng họ vẫn hoài nghi về những điều họ đang học và đã đưa ra những thông tin sai lệch quỹ đạo,  gieo nhân tà kiến và tạo ra những nghiệp xấu ác. 

      Cầu nguyện tất cả chúng sanh hiểu thấu đáo những lời dạy của đức Phật và có chánh kiến về thần chú cũng như giáo lý Phật đà. 

      Con cầu nguyện Thầy Cô thân tâm an tịnh,  trụ thế lâu dài. 

      Cầu nguyện tất cả chúng sanh đoạn trừ khổ đau và đạt được giác ngộ. 

      Om Mani Padme Hum. 

  2. Tantra siramitra. says:

    Venerebol Guru.

    My name is tantra siramitra.

    Now and again we come across we some people with theron ideology about the Holly Dharma but folse ideology, specially when they said that Buddism borrowed mantras from the Brahaminians totally folse, the venerebol Guru is 100% right

    Some people they should not be allowed to do souch comments, because they are disc kerning the Holly Dharma.

    May Avery one be happy.


    • Kính bạch Thầy! 

      Con xin phép được dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Siramitra sang tiếng Việt như sau:

      Kính bạch Thầy tâm linh tôn quý! 

      Con là Tantra Siramitra. 

      Một lần nữa Mật gia Song Nguyễn tác pháp chiếu quang bởi vì một số người tuy nghiên cứu về Phật pháp nhưng họ lại tà kiến về chánh pháp. Đặc biệt, khi họ cho rằng đạo Phật mượn thần chú của đạo Bà la môn là hoàn toàn sai.  Những luận giảng của Thầy tôn kính đúng 100%. 

      Những người tà kiến không nên phát ngôn và không được phép bình luận vì họ đang gây nghiệp hủy báng chánh pháp. 

      Cầu nguyện tất cả chúng sanh luôn được hạnh phúc. 

      Om Mani Padme Hum. 

  3. Bishnu Prasad Das says:

    Respected Guruji,

                               Gone through Double Tongue Speech….

    Really very nicely described. Thinking varies person to person. But truth is truth. So we have to follow the truth. Guru and elders should be pay respect. Difference of views  is a common fact among all dharma, but the attitude should be positive for the mankind not to go against common interest basing on ego. Dharma Guru’s are the leader of our dharma…. Dharma is a part of our life….discipline is basing on dharma….and it is necessary to learn the right path to proceed.

    Om Mani Padme Hun.

    Tantra Vikrachitta,

    Bishnu Prasad Das, 


  4. tantra mahavita says:

    Dear Holy Guru: Thank you very much for sharing, this article. I deeply desire that all beings can correctly learn and understand the precious Dharma and Mantras. Fundamentally, the Wisdom of Emptiness and Compassion. Taking the Right Dharma Vision as a priority, since the same … offers a variety of helpful means that help to achieve knowledge of liberation that is based on the final understanding of the Four Noble Truths. May the Guru have a long life for the benefit of all sentient beings. May all beings find the true happiness of the Buddha Nature.OM MANI PADME HUM

  5. Tantra Mishataru says:

    Dear Holy Guru, I am so thankful for this article, at first I had same issue of doubting mantras, whenever I chant I had bad thoughts maybe something awful might happen. As for now I have much wisdom and knowledge of how Buddhist mantra can be so much helpful. I have already witnessed through Mani mantra since I started chanting it. Many problems I used to think will never end are now fading off. While on I am still teaching myself about the great compassion mantra though in Chinese version. I have done my research and I found is great specifically when you say it at night hours as you said… Any way thank for this article Dear Beloved Guru may you live long healthy life for the benefit of sentient being.

    Om Mani Padme Hum

  6. Tantra Amitara says:

    Dear guru

    Thank you for this article. I bow my head on your lotus feet.

    “Truth is truth if no one follow it, false is false if everyone follow it” This line gives me the power to stay honest at difficult situation. Although I am not wholly truth speaker but I am trying my best. For being stay with truth we need lots of courage. We all have to open ourselves. I have also to say that I am not commenting on article at regular basis. It is due to my ignorance, laziness. I am sorry for that.

    May guru and dakini live long for the shake of all sensient being. May his teaching spreads all over the world for peace and happiness.

    May all sensient being attain enlightenment.

    Om mani padme hum.

  7. Tantra Ashihata (Simon Michael) says:

    Dear holy Guru,

    my name is Tantra Ashihata.

    appreciate you for this wonderful article you have given to us. For reading this article I understand the power in good practice of buddahism.

    May Guru live long for all the sentient being and may all sentient being free from suffering.

    Om mani padme hum


  8. Tantra Sagovana says:

    Dear Guru,

    My name is Tantra Sagovana.

    Thank you for sharing this article.

    I understand that Buddhism contains a treasure of wisdom. As each patriarch has different styles of teaching for different capacity students the forms of Dharma differ but all forms of Dharma contain the taste of liberation.

    May Mat Tinh Phap overcome difficulties at present and get successful in the future.

    May all sentient beings be healthy and well and be free from suffering.

    May Guru be healthy and live long for the benefit of all beings.

    Om Mani Padme Hum.

    Tantra Sagovana (Ahmed Khan)

  9. Tantra Mashinaga says:

    Dear Guru,

    Thank you for this article. I learned very much from reading this article.

    May guru live a long and happy life

    May all beings be free of suffering and attain happiness

    Om Mani Padme Hum

    Tantra Mashinaga (Mark Hamilton)


  10. Tantra Pramitdhita (Josh Hacker) says:

    Holy Guru,

    I bow my head before your lotus feet!! Thank you for sharing the article “Double-Tongue Speech is Sharper Than Sword” I have learned over the years that those whom try to start rumors, mislead others away from the truth and use double-tongued speech are normally not happy with themselves or with their life so they try to make others around them unhappy in order to make themselves feel better. I myself do not understand this method. Luckily, we have a compassionate Guru who leads us through the darkness towards the light of liberation with the guidance of proven truths!

    Mat Hue Phap,

    Thank you Vajra brother!! I rejoice in your good deed through translation. Your help supports the spread of Guru’s teaching to all sentient beings. May all of your legitimate wishes be granted within the right orbit of Dharma.

    May our Guru and his consort live a long and healthy life for the sake of all sentient beings

    May all sentient beings achieve the happiness of Buddha’s nature

    May the global pandemic caused by the Corona virus soon end

    Om Mani Padme Hum

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