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About the Realms of Demons – LESSON 7: “BLACK WHEN NEAR THE INK…” (“Gần mực thì đen…”)

About the Realms of Demons – LESSON 7: “BLACK WHEN NEAR THE INK…” (“Gần mực thì đen…”)

The hungry demons have ugly and disgusting bodies, the powerful demons have stately appearances but all of them have same characters which are greedy and tendency to harm others. People who are not true Dharma practictitioners, do not take refuge in Triratna, do not keep or observe any percepts, should not pay reverence to any demons, even to high-level demons. Why? Because demons tend to possess statues in order to enjoy the smell from offering foods. Sometimes, they may possess someone who are doing ceremony of paying reverence to them or to anyone who worshipped them or asked them for help. Even  you only concentrate on looking at the statue of demon with enjoyment or pleasure that will make a good condition for them to possess you. Recently, these cases are exemplified by an article mentioned about the victim whowas a 20 year-old young lady, her name is Jessica Curphey.

The hungry demons have ugly and disgusting bodies

​Jessica Curphey, 20 years-old young lady, was bought to St Helier Hospital right after she had felt pain in her right flank. After testing, the diagnostic showed that she got urine infection, so doctors used the antibiotic for her treatment.

Jessica Curphey

Based on the initial supersonic results, doctors diagnosed that there was a 17-cm tumor on her right kidney.

After 11 days, the supersonic result showed that next to her two kidneys, there was a broken tumor so that doctors had to do urgent surgery to protect her life.

However, during the surgery, the doctors were very surprise to discover that Jessica had four kidneys – there is very rare case.

The doctors examined and found out that one of four kidneys got damaged badly, so they would have to cut it off.

The doctor, Robyn Webber said: “This is very strange and rare case in which a person has 3 kidneys. There are only almost 100 similar cases discovered until now”

After the surgery and got treatment for urine infection which caused by bacteria from the broken kidney, Jessica has got recovered and has a normal live with 3 kidneys.

Song Nguyen Tantra House at night

According to the newspaper “Tuoi Tre and Doi Song” issued no.18 on May 30 2013, the translator Nhu Y wrote about the cause of this case that: In a museum visit, Jessica concentrated on looking at an old statue which had discovered during period of the Renaissance. She went to the statue and touched it. The next day, Jessica had very strange behavior, sometimes she cried, sometimes she laughed or when having a good time then she suddenly got angry without any reasons, she even screamed out like being crazy. When she was alone, she “heard” that there was a voice inside her head. It seems that there was another person using her body. After that, she got pain in her right flank. There is a strange thing that when comparing with Jessica’s medical documents in 2012, the doctors said that the tumor had just appeared and developed strongly during about six month as same as the time when Jessica met the mysterious statue in Manchester museum. Jessica said: “The night before the surgery, I “saw” the person who possessed me. That person proactively showed up to talk to me. In my dream, I met a man who looked like as same as the statue in museum. He said after many years residing inside the statue, he wanted to go out and played. That’s why he chose me to take him out. Right after, I touched the statue, he possessed me. He said he loves me because I am innocent…”

After the surgery, Jesscia met him one more time, and he said he would leave her body and let her live her own life as one way of showing his affection to her.  Jessica’s case can be considered to be possessed by demons as same as the case of that the different spirits incarnate the practitioner who is acting as a spiritual medium while ritual in process in Vietnam! The researcher of Eastern culture, Mrs. Jan Black explained: “There is a possibility that Jessica has another personality inside her when she was born. In eastern countries, they call this case as incomplete reincarnation. It means that there are two souls living inside Jessica’s body – that’s why she had two pair of kidney. Such a case is extremely rare but it can happen” (According to the article “The girl who has four kidneys and the obsession of having other person “living in same body”, the newspaper Tuoi tre and Doi Song)

The explanation of Jan Black is contrary to the viewpoint of Buddha because the possibility would never happen. If this was true then why Jessica did not get paranoia or have strange behavior when she was a kid, but she only got into the accident until she was 20 years old and “met” the statue in the museum. Mrs. Jan does not understand the power tricks of demons which have been explained in the previous lesson.

The origin of demon is an angel named Lucifer

​In Europe, people believe in possession by demons, but the origin of the demons is the angel named Lucifer, who wanted to overthrow God but he did not success. Eventually, the people who are the followers of Lucifer are called Satan by Christian. This is not true, because the demons come from their own land and so do the angels. Also, angels should not have figure of human beings having wings in their back because they have psychic travel power (Rddhi-saksatkriya-jnana) so they can travel everywhere they want, so it is not necessary to have wings in their back. If someone who have figure of human beings having wings then he should belong to one kind of demons called Garuda.

If someone who have figure of human beings having wings then he should belong to one kind of demons called Garuda

Back to Jesscia’s case, once again we mention to Confucius’s saying: “To demons, we should keep appropriate rules and politeness, but should not close to them”. Especially, the Buddha has taught: “We should be close to true and good spiritual friends and stay away from bad spiritual friends”. This Buddha’s teaching contains more than one meaning, because bad spiritual friends not only mention about demons, Atula, Yaksa, human beings. Bad spiritual friends also mention about anyone who has deep knowledge but they do not use their knowledge to help all sentient beings follow the right Path to enlightenment. The demon lords, high-level demons, who have high power, could mention many kinds of philosophies, but all of these only satisfy their own ego, their own greedy; they do not dare to mention about the teaching of egolessness or the Buddha’s percepts. They like to talk about the cult of personality, they see themselves as the creator of all sentient beings, and call themselves as lord of universe… And anyone who follows them would go to heaven while anyone who fights against them would go to hell (!). These philosophies contain arrogant meanings and go contrary to law of Cause and Effect.

For examples, if someone, who usually gives usurious loans, has sycophant actions to his supervisors but threaten actions to his staff in company, or being greedy to his own competence, trying to accrete his own asset by any quackery. Then, he goes to church, cathedral to pray religiously until his eyes crying out. However, just because of these religious actions, could he offset all his bad habit, all the crime he committed to go to the heaven? During the dark period of human mankind, these were 14 crusades (the religion wars which were launched by Vatican) that killed more than 200 million people. During that time, there was a king of France, who killed many people (who considered as infidel people) for more than 20 years, was ordained as saint by Vatican (!). Could anyone go to heaven after death by just following Vatican’s command? I, Thinley Nguyen Thanh, a Tantric Guru, confirms that a person would have to go to hell whichever position he was ordained for! The same rule would apply to everyone who is still wandering in the samsara.

I, Thinley Nguyen Thanh, a Tantric Guru, confirms that a person would have to go to hell whichever position he was ordained for! The same rule would apply to anyone who is still wandering in the samsara.

Fortunately, there are some demon lords, who have opportunities to be close to the Buddha in big Dharma festivals, feel compassion and bodhicitta of the Buddha, aware the value for being close to true and good spiritual friends, then they make promise to become the Dharma protectors and respect to everyone who practices the Dharma. About majority of low-level demons, they do not have such opportunities, so they usually use their power to go to human being world, talk about things that are superfluous and superstitious and encourage the slaughter of cattle and poultry for worship. Besides, they also “possess” the people who although have knowledge and elegant figure, usually do bad, evils things. What do they do for? They do that in order to satify their own ego, including greedy, hatred, delusion, arrogance, jealousy. As mentioned in newspaper, there was a person who drinks coffee and smokes cigarettes a lot in western area, usually talked about curing people’s diseases and gave advice to other people that they should not worship the Buddha, just worship seven generations of ancestors (!) Is this doctrine of the Buddha, the right view according to Buddha’s teaching? If anything goes contrary to doctrine of the Buddha and the right view of Buddha’s teaching, then it should be considered as wrong view. Anyone who encourages these wrong views just exposes their own origin whatever good things they did. Therefore, there is sentence in Flower Omament Sutra: “Any Dharma practice that does not originate from Bodihicitta can be considered as evil practice!”

Om Mani Padme Hum

​However, people tend to feel precious to get any help when they feel hungry or get disease. Eventually, they seem to listen and follow to anything that is said by the helper. This is the trick which is usually used by Protestantism and Catholicism to make people listen and follow.  It is old method but it is still effective to anyone who lacks of understanding and only appreciates physical value! As a result, there are many statues made of rock, clay, copper or plasters which are made up by the hypocrite or fraud benefactor. Due to lack of understanding, many people still follow their fraud saying in order to fulfill the ambition of escaping from the poverty. In addition, Taoism is a Chinese religion, which wrongly mixs up with doctrine of the Buddha, focus on worshipping gods. Taoist came to poor countries via invasion and compelled people to worship the wrong view, fraud philosophy or fraud statues like Guan Gong, God of Wealth, God of Land, Queen Xu or Madam Thien Hau. They make up of tricks and spread fraud saying that worshipping these statues would allow you to get more money, authority or even giving birth of a son (!)… They do not know that these statues are ideally hidden place of demons. They do not know that believing in them, worshipping them are the cause of wrong view and could lead them to low-level realms after death.

In conclusion, we should be careful when deciding to worship any statues in order to stay away from bad situations. Once a person allows a demon to possess his body, then his life will eventually get darker and darker even if he gets plentiful fortune. Because the Buddha’s sutra has confirmed that fortune which, comes from unrighteous and wrong view origin, will eventually lose via 5 ways: (1) Loss by houses burnt (2) Loss by natural calamity; (3) Loss by burglar; (4) Loss by facing daily harassment by the agencies; (5) Loss by filial impiety.

“Revering to one who deserves to be revered, Worshipping to one who deserves to be worshipped, this is true blessing”

​May all sentient beings follow to the Buddha’s teaching written in The Blessing sutra: “Revering to one who deserves to be revered, Worshipping to one who deserves to be worshipped, this is true blessing”

Phuoc Thanh Village, 06 May 2013


Translated by Mat Chanh Tan

Original Vietnamese version: QUỶ SỰ BÀI 7: “gần mực thì đen…”

About the Realm of Demons (12 lessons):


Lesson 1: WHO IS A DEMON?



Lesson 4: Spiritual medium and spiritual power 





Lesson 9: Need to determine by right view

Lesson 10: Notice manifestation of demonic possession from raw to sophisticated elements




  1. Dear Holy Guru,

    I have read the lesson 7: “black when near the ink…”. I would like to show my deep gratitude for your clear explanation about the way how the demons possess the human beings who have not taken refuge in Triratna and I understand how precious a true Buddhist is!

    For those who have not taken refuge in Triratna have no protected by Gurus or Buddhist guardians. It is the cause for demonic possession to take place. Even though they look at the statues of demons with enjoyment or a wish relating to desires that rises in their mind, the demons also have a good chance to possess their body and control their actions of speech, body and mind.

    The Jessica Curphey’s case puts a good example. Only did she touch the statue of demon, she had a bad experienced on demonic possession. Her case was so serious that she needed the urgent surgery due to a broken tumor on her right kidney. This story reminds me of that every realms has their own regulation and their own way of existence. We should not interfere with their business even a thought of being close to demons.

    In addition, if our bad spiritual thought creates the frequency as the same as demons’ spiritual frequency. We will be possessed by demons if we are not true Buddhists.  Obviously, nowadays, there are some demonic monks who preach many kinds of Buddha’s doctrines, but they aim at boasting their ego and they avoid to talk about Buddhist’s precepts. They like to talk about themselves based on their own thought but no Buddhist grounds. They tend to make a speech for their own position and benefit. They do not care about the ultimate goal of liberation and do not teach the Dharma for all sentient beings to get the enlightenment. Such kinds of demonic monks or teachers, we should keep ourselves far away from them in order to avoid the bad consequences involved in evil forces.

    Luckily, thanks to your help, I become a true Buddhist. More important, with my pure devotion to the Guru, you protect me far from the evil forces. Thus, even in sutra for example it is described that “Any Bodisattva who has a Guru, will never fall into lower realms. Any Bodhisattva who is protected by a Guru will never be lured by negative companions. Any Bodhisattva who is raised by a Guru will never fall back from the Mahayana, from the bodhichitta, and any Bodhisattva who is helped by a Guru will definitely be uplifted from the level of ordinary sentient being to an enlightened one”.

    May Guru and your consort have a good health and live long for the sake of all sentient beings.

    I also rejoice in the good deeds of Mat Chanh Tan for his English version. His translation supports to flourish your teachings all over the world to light this Saha world up with the Dharma.

    May Mat Chanh Tan get all wishes due to your diligent cultivation.

    May all sentient beings achieve the happiness of Buddha’s nature.

    Om Mani Padme Hum.

  2. Dear Holy Guru,

    I’m grateful to read this article in the series of “About the Realm of Demons”. The case of Jessica Curphey proves that the demons and possession by demons really exist. Even people believe or not, they still live together in this Shaha world with us and affect human’s lives. It is clear that the teachings of the Buddha explain the invisible supernatural that modern science today or other religions give up.

    I realize that the fear of the invisible, supernatural power of human is rooted in ignorance. Once we understand the nature of things and the way counter them, that fear will not haunt us anymore! I’m so lucky and grateful to you for your helping us to understand the Buddha’s teachings, so that we can understand and do rightly without fear of the invisible power!

    May more and more people receive the light of the teachings through your writings on chanhtuduy.com to throw away their fear. May Guru and your consort live long for the sake of all sentient beings.

    Thank you Mat Chanh Tan for your English translation. I’m really delighted with your good deed. May your legitimate wishes come true in the near future.

    Om mani padme hum!

  3. Dear holy Guru!

    I am delighted your article.

    After reading your article. I understand that bad spiritual friends are also those who have deep knowledge but they do not use their knowledge to help all sentient beings follow the right Path to enlightenment. They lead all beings to the world of demons through wrongdoings and then all  beings become “Black when near the ink”. Because a person allows a demon to possess his body, then his life will eventually get darker and darker even he can get plentiful forture.  Especially for Buddhist practitioners, they can not be freed from samsara.

    Poor them! They mistook the enemy for the benefactor. They put more effort into getting rid of suffering but they can not do that because of their faith in wrong viewers.

    Thank you for your teaching.

    I am elated by Mat Chanh Tan’s translation, too.

    May all sentient beings close the door of the lower realms. Om Ah Hum!

  4. Tantra Upatissa says:

    Dear Guru
    I have read this article. It is a very interesting one. Thank you so much.
    May the Guru live long for the sake of all beings.
    May all beings achieve the happiness of Buddha’s nature.
    Om Mani Padme Hum.

    • Kính bạch Thầy!

      Con xin phép dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Upatissa sang tiếng Việt như sau:

      “Kính bạch Thầy!

      Con đã đọc bài này rồi ạ. Con cảm tạ ơn Thầy đã cho con đọc bài viết lợi lạc này.

      Con cầu nguyện Thầy trụ thế lâu dài vì sự lợi lạc của chúng sanh.

      Cầu nguyện tất cả chúng sanh thành tựu hạnh phúc của Phật tánh.

      Om Mani Padme Hum.”

  5.  Tantra Mahavita says:

    Querido y Amado Guru : Muchas Gracias por publicar estos interesantes articulos . Profundo Agradecimiento . Que el Guru tenga salud y pueda vivir muchos años para beneficio de todos los seres sintientes . Que todos los seres encuentren la felicidad y sus causas . Que todos los seres esten libres de sufrimiento y sus causas . OM MANI PADME HUM


  6. Tantra Pramitdhita (Josh Hacker) says:

    Guru, after reading this article I now understand that demons can possess the bodies of those whom do not take refuge in the Triratna. I deeply appreciate your wisdom. Thank you for everything you do for the sake of all sentient beings.

    Om mani padme hum

    May Guru and his consort have a long life for the sake of all sentient beings

    May all sentient beings find freedom from suffering

  7. Mật Diệu Hằng says:

    Kính bạch Thầy!

    Con xin phép được dịch comment của đạo hữu Tantra Pramitdhita (Josh Hacker) sang tiếng Việt như sau:

    Kính bạch Thầy!

    Sau khi đọc bài viết này con hiểu rằng quỷ có thể nhập vào những ai chưa quy y Tam Bảo.

    Con hoan hỷ tán thán công hạnh và trí tuệ của Thầy.

    Con cảm tạ ơn Thầy vì tất cả những điều tốt đẹp Thầy đã làm vì lợi lạc của tất cả chúng sanh.

    Om Mani Padme Hum.

    Con cầu nguyện Thầy Cô trụ thế lâu dài vì lợi lạc của tất cả chúng sanh.

    Cầu nguyện tất cả chúng sanh đoạn trừ mọi khổ đau.


  8. Tantraupatissa says:

    Dear Guru thanks for sharing this article. By reading this article I came to know about the significant appearance of demon’s. We should not pray to them. We can have compassion on them but we should not get attracted to them. Benefits which we get by praying to them won’t last for longer period. It’s good to take refuge in Buddha Dharma and Sangha or to God’s who are really worthy to be prayed.

    May Guru and his consort live long for sake of other beings and get enlightened.

    May all beings be free from suffering and get enlightened.

    Om Mani Padme Hum..

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